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PARK RANGERS TAKE ON RELIC HUNTERS
Threats of jail used to protect historic battlefields: http://www.msnbc.com/id/4038183/
BANNING OF TREASURE HUNTING ACTIVITIES ?
An older article, but still informative on how there are people out there trying to steal our hobbies away from us ! http://www.terravista.pt/mussulo/2386/petition.htm
ARCHAEOLOGICAL RESOURCES PROTECTION ACT OF 1979
SUBMITTED BY KEITH WILLS, WWATS PRESIDENT
http://www2.cr.nps.gov/laws/archprotect.htm
A TRUE TREASURE STORY--A SIDELIGHT ON THE FAMOUS VICTORIO PEAK SAGA
WRITTEN BY DR. OREN SWEARINGEN
In 1949, desperate to liquidate
some of the 200 gold bars he had
removed from the shaft prior to it's collapse,
Doc Noss entered into a
partnership with a Texas oilman named Charlie
Ryan, who claimed to have
contacts in Mexico where it could be sold--- The
plan was to have flown
the gold from it's hiding place near the peak
that April, and to divide
the proceeds-------The day before the planned
flight, Noss overheard his
partner plotting a double cross, so he decided to
go out to the peak and
move the bars to new locations, where Ryan
couldn't find them. Going
to the only filling station in the town of Hatch,
New Mexico to fill
up, before it closed at dark, he happened to see
the familiar face of a
man he had known on the rodeo circuit, who was
also tanking up----His
name was Tony Jolley, who just happened to be
passing through on his way
home, in Idaho, from a trip to
Dallas-----Engaging him in conversation,
Noss learned that Tony was registered at the
local motel for the night,
and was planning to continue on his way in the
morning...After filling
their tanks, they exchanged goodbyes and went
their separate
ways-------But, just before dark, Noss knocked
on Jolley's door, and
asked Jolley if he would be free to help him
with something he had to
do that night, and Jolley replied that there
wasn't much to do at night
in such a small town, so he would be happy to
help him--- Soon the
two men were on the road south , heading for the
village of Rincon, at
which place it was necessary to leave the road in
the middle of the
little town, dropping down into the dry river
bed, which they followed
upstream and passed under the railroad
trestle----shortly after, Noss
picked up a dim road, of deep sand, that left the
river bed on the South
bank and climbed up onto the raised level of the
desert floor, and
headed East across the dreaded Jornada del Muerto
( Journey of the Dead
Man ) toward the distant range of the San Andres
Mountains ------
Only a few miles out of Rincon, they came to a
small building with a
nearby windmill, where Noss pulled over and
stopped-----Taking a shovel
from the bed of the pickup, Noss began digging a
hole near the windmill
while Jolley looked on, mystified----Soon, Noss
began rolling gold bars
out of the hole, much to the amazement of Jolley,
who said; " Why Doc,
that's GOLD ! "-----At this point, Noss was
obliged to relate the story
of the planned double cross, and the reason they
were there-----Loading
all 20 bars into the bed of the pickup, Doc
continued heading toward the
distant mountains, much to Jolley's surprise, and
after a distance of
about 35 miles , they finally reached the range,
although it was too
dark for Tony to see them until they were inside
the passes where the
walls were close----A couple of miles of
climbing, and then they began a
steep, and winding, descent into what turned out
to be the Hembrillo
Basin, with Victorio Peak standing in it's
center------ They drove past
the peak, following the road around to the left,
and came to a fairly
level grassy area, whereupon Doc pulled off the
road and selected a
place to begin digging, in order to hide the 20
bars--------Doc dug the
shallow holes while Tony carried the 40 lb. bars
to him, one at a
time--- When the hole was covered and smoothed
over, they got back
into the pickup and drove up onto Victorio Peak
for a very short
distance, and Doc stopped next to a small
prospect hole, where Tony saw
90 more bars ! By this time, Tony had become
very excited, and began to
ask more questions, causing Doc to have to relate
the entire story of
the gold in the peaks' cave system------Then they
loaded 50 bars into
the truck bed, and drove off the peak, and across
the Basin, past the
burial spot of the 20 bars, and past a rock
house, where they turned to
the right and began climbing a low hill that had
a fortified, one room
rock house on it's summit-----with the headlights
shining on the 'fort',
Doc began digging 5 holes in various directions
from the pickup, while
Tony resumed his task of carrying them, one by
one, until they had
placed 10 bars in each of the 5 holes------
After finishing this, they
returned to the hole on the peak and picked up
the last 40 bars, placed
them in the bed of the truck nad drove back
across the Basin floor to
the rock house they had previously passed
by-----This time, Doc stopped,
and they went inside the house, which was a
place used by the Noss
family as a kitchen and dining room when they
were camping outside in
their tents-----Noss found a couple of cans of
potted meat and they had
a little picnic, before climbing the knoll behind
the house, where Doc
dug one more hole and had Tony carry 10 bars up
to him, also one at a
time---- In each case, Doc laid the bars in the
holes in two rows of 5
bars per row, and covereod them with only about 6
inches of dirt---
After covering those 10 bars, Doc informed Tony
that they were finished
in the Basin,. and that he wanted to take the
last 30 bars somewhere
else----- By this time, it was well after
midnight, as they drove the
switchbacks of the road leading up and out of the
800 ft. deep Basin,.
heading West toward the desert----But, before
reaching the desert, Doc
turned off the main road, onto a road going
North, up a central valley
in the mountain range, which had Jolley somewhat
concerned, due to the
lateness of the hour-----Aftre following the road
North for some miles,
they came to a ranchouse, where Doc left the road
and cut across a very
wide grassy field, and about 500 yards later,
picked up a road going
West---crossing a ravine, and following it
upstream about 75 feet, he
picked up the faint road as it climbed out on the
North bank, and began
to climb a steep hillside as it followed a canyon
running East /West
toward the Jornada--------After topping a pass
and starting downhill,
Doc soon came to a stop, where he climbed over a
barbed wire fence on
the left ( South ) and walked out into the
darkness onto a fairly level,
grassy field, instructing Tony to throw 10 bars
over the fence and then
carry them out onto the field to him while he was
digiging the hole----
Using the same pattern as before, Doc placed the
10 bars into two rows
of five, side by side, and covered them with only
6 inches of
dirt----After finishing this, Doc drove the truck
a short distance,
where 10 more bars were thrown over the fence and
buried in the same
manner-----The process was repeated a third time,
and this hole happened
to be close to a dead tree, which was fortuitous
for Tony, who was
beginniig to fear for his life ! Picking out a
stout fallen limb from
the dead tree, Tony brandished it and told Doc
that if he made a move
toward the pistol he had seen in the glove
compartment he would club him
with it ! As they got back into the truck, it
was only a very short
distance to a gate that had to be opened, and
when Doc told Tony to get
out and open it, Tony refused, saying " we will
BOTH get out and open
it, because you could shoot me in the back !"
so, they both got out
and opened the gate, then they both got in and
drove through the gate,
and then they both got out went back and closed
the gate ! After
this, there wasn't much conversation between the
two men all the way
across the 35 miles of desert roads before
reaching the dam at Elephant
Butte, near Truth or Consequences NM, or as they
drove the 40 miles to
Hatch, where the evening had begun----When Doc
dropped Tony off at his
motel, Jolley assured Noss that the gold was none
of his business, and
that he was leaving th e area that day for Idaho
! WIth hardly a word,
Noss went on his way , heading for home and a
much needed nap------About
noon , Tony was in the local diner, having
breakfast, when a local
citizen burst into the cafe shouting that "
Someone has just klilled Doc
Noss !" When Tony heard this, he feared that HE
might be next, so he
quickly finished eating and drove out of town as
fast as he could !
While Tony had been packing for his trip, Noss
had gone to see Ryan to
tell him they were no longer partners, and that
he had moved the
gold---A fight ensued, and Ryan pulled a pistol
and followed Doc out
the door as he was running for his pickup----A
bullet in the back
stopped Doc, and he fell and came to rest against
the bumper of his
truck, mortally wounded-----Ryan and his
companions went out to the
desert windmiill and saw the empty hole, and knew
that Doc hadn't been
bluffing-----Of course there was a trial, of
sorts, but Ryan pleaded
self defense, and was acquitted ! In a
lamentable case of
conflicts of interest, the judge, and at least
one of the lawyers, were
involved in the gold recovery attempts at the
peak---and the Noss family
had a videotaped interview of the 90 year old
judge, in which he
admitted taking a BRIBE of 4 gold bars to acquit
Charlie Ryan ! As
for Tony Jolley, he went on home to Idaho, and
told many of his friends
about his experiences of that night, even going
so far as to draw maps
for some of them !
In 1991, using clues
from Tony's story, an atempt was made to locate
the last 30 bars they
had buried at about 3 AM on that night before Doc
as killed----Using the
ranch house he described, and following the road
West, we searched for a
fence on the left side of the road, but there was
none ! All the other
clues matched, so we searched with metal
detectors for a few days
anyway, but turned up nothing, finally deciding
that it would be
necessary to have Tony there to verify the
location------Arrangements
were made, and, a couple of weeks later, Tony was
flown in to verify the
place----It soon became apparent it was the wrong
place, because it was
the WRONG ranch house ! When he was informed
that it was the house he
had called for, he explained that the house was a
lot nicer house, and
he drew a picture of the house in the sane---As
he did, I recognized
which house he was talking about--but, to be
certain, I went to the
house and videotaped it so I could show it to him
in order to be
sure---When he saw the house on the screen, he
recognized it, and we
moved our search to the new area------ After
seeing the house for
himself, Tony was certain that it was the right
place, and with that
landmark verification, he was able to locate the
grassy field where they
had buried the 30 bars ! In order to be
meticulous in our search, we
drove stakes and strung lines to grid out the
search areas, which proved
to be a time consuming waste of time, so then we
resorted to
spray-painting the ground instead-----but soon
found this to require too
much paint, and so abandoned the idea----We
finally settled on a simpler
plan of dragging a shovel along the ground to
mark where we had
been-----Because of 3 shallow ravines, the field
was naturally divided
into 4 almost equal sections, so we took them
one at a time----finding
nothing in the first section-----In section # 2,
we found nothing, until
we came to a peculiar spot where no grass
grew---only dirt was showing,
and it was rectangular, with square
corners----and measured 2 ft. X 3
ft. As we worked the 3rd
section, we again
found nothing, until we came upon another spot of
dirt, wher everything
else was covered in grass----it also measured 2
ft. X 3 ft., in a
rectangle with square corners ! Suspicious by
now,I measured the
distance the barbed wire fence, which turned out
to be 25 paces---so I
went back to the first spot, which was 110 paces
away, and paced it off
to the fence---AGAIN 25 paces ! Leaving the
others to continue
searching in field # 3, I told them I was going
to walk down to the last
field 110 paces and see what was there---and,
sure enough ! there was
ANOTHER spot of dirt ( next to a DEAD TREE! ) and
it was ALSO 25 paces
to the fence ! Before beginning the search, we
had walked through the
entire area , looking for landmarks that Doc
might have used in hiding
the bars, and we had picked out 3 or 4 that could
have served---When we
found these 3 dirt spots, ALL THREE were lined up
with the landmarks we
had chosen ! The third spot was not only
near a dead tree, but it
was pretty close to a gate across the road !
Tony had warned us that he thought some of his
friends, for whom he had
made maps, might have found the bars, because
they had been avoiding him
after coming back home
! Remember the
10 bars buried on the knoll behind the rock house
that Doc used for a
kitchen ? About 11 years after that night, Tony
did come back and he
found those 10 bars
! All of
this refutes those skeptics who like to say that
Doc Noss was a 'con
man' and never had any REAL gold bars ! Tony
Jolley got a LOT more
money for those bars than he would have if they
had been brass or
copper, as some have claimed -----
What about all those
OTHER 70 bars they buried in the Basin that nght
?? Tony couldn't find
them--He had never been to those mountains before
that night, and was
disoriented, but, apparently, some MORE of his
friends were more
successful in following his instructions than he
was himself !!
They are GONE ! So, no-one else should try for
them, especially since
they were in a restricted area, where trespassers
are not welcome !
Doc Noss's story of gold inside Victorio Peak was
TRUE !!
PRIVATE CITIZEN'S RIGHT
SUBMITTED BY WWATS PRESIDENT KEITH WILLS
The next sheet you are about to see is called the Public Servants Questionnaire, and is a part of the Privacy Act of 1974, a long forgotten piece of legislation.
If any “government agency or department” including the IRS, request any information, to look at, or to take any part of your private collection from you, the citizen, they are required by law to answer these questions. If they mislead in their answers or refuse, they are subject to prosecution under the Privacy Act.
The questionnaire requires that the agency reveal all sources for their information, whether you are volunteering the information or under compulsion, whether you are subject to criminal action based on the information asked for or items taken, and who the agency will share the information with?
The advantages of this form are clear. Make them nervous and to show them that you know you rights by law. This might get them thinking before they act.
Keith Wills
Pursuant to the Privacy Act of 1974, American Citizens are authorized to require full, written disclosure from any government official who is seeking information from said Citizen. The Internal Revenue Service and other taxing agencies and are not exempt from this disclosure requirement and must use their full, legal name when answering the questionnaire.
To: Any Government Agency or Department which is requesting information
from a citizen. Please fill out the following information, regarding your
demand for:__________________________________________________________
PUBLIC SERVANT’S QUESTIONNAIRE Authority - Privacy Act, 5 USC Sec. 552a, 88 Stat. 1896 (1974)
1. Public servant’s full legal name:___________________________________________________
2. Public servant’s resident address:___________________________________________________
3. Name of Agency:_________________________________________________________________
4. Name of Supervisor and Office address:____________________________________________
____________________________________________
5. Will public servant uphold the Constitution of the United States?______________________
6. Did public servant provide Citizen with proof of identity?_____________________________
7. ID Number:___________________ Badge Number______________________________________
Bonding Agency and Number_______________________________________________________
8. Will public servant furnish a copy of the law or regulation that authorizes information
request?__________________________________________________________________________
9. Will public servant read aloud that portion of the law or regulation that authorizes the
questions requested?_______________________________________________________________
10. Are Citizens answers voluntary or mandatory?______________________________________
11. Are the questions being asked based upon a specific law or regulation, or are they a
discovery process?______________________________________________________________
12. What other uses may be made of this information?__________________________________
13. What other agencies may have access to this information?__________________________
14. What will be the effect upon me if I should not choose to answer any or all of these
questions?________________________________________________________________________
15. Name of person in government requesting this information?_________________________
16. Is this investigation of my finances general or special?_______________________________
17. Have you consulted, question, interviewed, or received information from any third
party relating to this matter?_______________________________________________________
18. If yes, give identity of all such third parties._________________________________________
19. Do you reasonably anticipate either a civil or criminal action to be initiated or
pursued based upon any of the information which you seek?________________________
20. Is there a file of records, information, or correspondence relating to me being
maintained by this agency?_______________________________________________________
21. Is this agency using any information on me which was supplied by another agency or
government source?______________________________________________________________
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any other department other than the one which he is employed?____________________
I hereby sign and affirm under the penalty of perjury that the answers given are true and
correct in every particular.
_________________________________________________
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TEXAS TREASURE SHOW
The 28th & 29th of this month ! HUGE !! Scroll down to : Texas Treasure and Metal Detecting Show PR Flyer at this link: http://www.texascouncil.com/
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GOLD & SILVER PRICES
A lot of analysts are predicting gold at $850+ an ounce SOON---and silver is ALSO on the rise. Here are a few of the recommended internet sites for daily monitoring of gold and precious metals news:
http://www.cbs.marketwatch.com
HOW TO STAKE YOUR CLAIM
http://www.blm.gov/iemtap/minetype.html
MINING'S ROUGH IMAGE
Viewpoints on the web: http://www.amm.com/ref/hot/surv997a.htm
TREASURE HUNTERS GAZETTE
Subscribe to ANOTHER newsletter for Treasure Hunters !! I really like this website: STREETER'S TREASURE HUNTING SUPPLY. If you will go to their website you can sign up to receive their newsletter, read stories, enter contests, use the forums, and shop ! http://www.streeter.org/community/
NOT A WALK IN THE WOODS !!
WANTED !! Investors and participants in gold mining venture on the Verdeyacu or Chalupas-Cedroyacu rivers. With the price of gold skyrocketing, here is an opportunity to realize a good short term return on your investment. Investors are invited along or encouraged to send along a participant in order to protect their interests.
The country is Ecuador, very mineral rich and relatively stable politically. These rivers are literally full of coarse gold and the only way in and out is on foot. The plan is to hire a dozen or more natives from Ecuador to transport light-weight mining equipment and to work the rivers along with myself and any participants who want to be involved.
Lots of gold has been recovered by investors doing the same in the past and they have become quite wealthy in the process. The area in question is so vast and isolated that only a small fraction of the wealth has been recovered.
A hands-on approach is required to make this work and anyone wanting to participate has to be in great physical shape, capable of living and working in difficult conditions for 4 to 8 weeks and able to hike long distances to reach the rivers. Participants should also have a working knowledge of the Spanish language and possess, as a minimum, rudimentary survival, diplomatic and people skills.
This venture is for serious investors only and should not be mistaken for a walk in the woods or a camping trip. More details are available. Serious inquiries only. Email: karlbackus@myexcel.com with any questions, concerns, and whatever contact information you may have. I have access to unlimited long distance 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Leave your phone number and I will contact you by telephone, within the continental United States.
CONCLUSION
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DEDICATION
AS ALWAYS !! To TARA---my wonderful wife who allows me to "play" treasure hunter EVERY day !
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